{"id":49602,"date":"2010-11-26T12:14:00","date_gmt":"2010-11-26T12:14:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.epress.am\/2010\/11\/26\/why-are-armenias-citizens-serving-in-the-army-in-karabakh-roundtable\/"},"modified":"2010-11-26T12:14:00","modified_gmt":"2010-11-26T12:14:00","slug":"why-are-armenias-citizens-serving-in-the-army-in-karabakh-roundtable","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/epress.am\/en\/2010\/11\/26\/why-are-armenias-citizens-serving-in-the-army-in-karabakh-roundtable.html","title":{"rendered":"Why are Armenia&#8217;s Citizens Serving in the Army in Karabakh? Roundtable"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px\/normal 'Arian AMU'\">Armenia&#8217;s defense minister, the chief of general staff and the supreme commander must resign, said head of the Helsinki Citizens&#8217; Assembly (HCA) Vanadzor Office Artur Sakunts at a roundtable today at the Institute for War and Peace Reporting in Yerevan.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px\/normal 'Arian AMU'; min-height: 16px\"><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px\/normal 'Arian AMU'\">Sakunts indicated 44 cases of death that were recorded in the army in 2010. According to official figures, only 7 of these occurred as a result of violations of ceasefire.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px\/normal 'Arian AMU'; min-height: 16px\"><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px\/normal 'Arian AMU'\">Most of the cases, according to the human rights defender, are violations of statutory relations and unlawfulness carried out by commanders. &#8220;What&#8217;s most terrible is that no one responsible is uncovered in the death cases, or they attempt to arrange them as suicides.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px\/normal 'Arian AMU'; min-height: 16px\"><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px\/normal 'Arian AMU'\">Sakunts agreed with the defense ministry in that the army is a mirror of society, &#8220;because what is happening in the country, I mean in the attitude toward citizens, in so-called free conditions, outside of the army, the same happens also in the army.&#8221; The more such discussions and publications in the press, the more likely the situation will change, he said.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px\/normal 'Arian AMU'; min-height: 16px\"><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px\/normal 'Arian AMU'\">Referring to the recent incident in Karabakh in which 4 Armenian soldiers were wounded and 4 dead, Sakunts called it absurd that one of the wounded has been charged. &#8220;And is there a figure on the responsibility of the officers or commanders?&#8221; he asked, adding, &#8220;why do we have to trust this data and not conduct an investigation?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px\/normal 'Arian AMU'; min-height: 16px\"><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px\/normal 'Arian AMU'\">Another roundtable participant, head of the Helsinki Citizens&#8217; Assembly Mikael Danielyan said that the Armenian army has two problems: criminalization and lawlessness. &#8220;Until now, no one&#8217;s speaking about the main topic: why are the citizens of Republic of Armenia serving in Nagorno-Karabakh?&#8221; According to him, the lawlessness (or unlawfulness) begins from here.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px\/normal 'Arian AMU'; min-height: 16px\"><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px\/normal 'Arian AMU'\">According to him, criminalization is built on lawlessness, which is very convenient for Armenia&#8217;s authorities. &#8220;It&#8217;s possible to work with a criminal army; it can be kept in the [palm of your] hand.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px\/normal 'Arian AMU'; min-height: 16px\"><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px\/normal 'Arian AMU'\">The human rights activist also noted that if the illegality of RA citizens serving in Karabakh is not talked about, &#8220;we will not be able to solve any problems. 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